COVID Kills with Linda Murray Bullard

Linda Murray Bullard is on a life and death mission. 

As a business woman & miracle COVID survivor she wants us to know: COVID and vaccine hesitancy can destroy everything you’ve worked for in your business - as well as your life and that of your family. #getvaccinated #survive

Linda is an unlikely survivor of COVID - she is the 1st person the hospital had treated in her demographic to have not died. She is a miracle outlier in a tragic story unfolding among the +black communities of Tennessee.  Linda wants that tragedy to stop.

Her message:
80% of the white community is vaccinated/
14% of the black community has had the shot. 

In the month she was fighting for her life, Sept-Oct 2021, 

87% of COVID cases were unvaccinated people and 

85% of COVID deaths in Tennessee were those unvaccinated patients.  

Of the 3400 people hospitalized, 1790 - more than half - died. 

Tennessee stopped publishing the race breakdown of COVID numbers many months ago but from these numbers, statistically speaking, we know the vast majority were people of color

Linda survived but lost so much.  

She has a year of recovery ahead of her

• She is reliant on an oxygen feed 
• She is facing a bill of over $250,000 for the cost of her treatment 
• Her business only survived because of the extensive automation she had in place

She is continuing her work with small businesses to find funding and be more profitable thru automation

But

Her heart-felt mission is to break through the hesitancy, teach people how to feel assured in the safety of the vaccine they receive and to get people vaccinated

Find Linda at:
https://GetTheBusiness.org
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindamurraybullardspeaks/
https://www.facebook.com/LSMBBusinessSolutions/
https://www.instagram.com/lsmbbusinesssolutions/
http://MustPlugIn.com

Transcript

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She's All That. This is the she's all that video podcast conversations with women doing awesome shit. I'm your host September Smith. And in this season, it's all about the transformation that the women are making in the aftermath of the "midlife bomb" as I call it. Those unforeseen events, illness, loss, a career termination, a battle or awakening, a transformation - events that are lobbed into our lives like a grenade, detonating the life that we've been living for decades and making it impossible to ever go back. When this happens, we are left to dust ourselves off, figure it out and find our own way forward. While the lens of popular culture is often on the tragedy, and the trauma and the injury and damage that it inflicts, I want to celebrate women who were only made stronger but what they experienced. We need to hear those stories to know that building that new life, that new incarnation from the pieces of what was is not just possible, it may be the best thing you'll ever do. She's My guest today is Linda Murray Bullard. She is the CEO of LS MB business solutions. And I met Linda via LinkedIn. Back in August of this year, we have common connections and there was a thread, a very impactful thread. Women talking about business women over 45 is starting their business. And I've noticed a couple of Linda's comments. So I thought Who is this woman? So I checked her out check out a profile and I saw that she works with women over 45 starting and building their businesses, but also that she is a specialist in working with economically disadvantaged women owned small businesses. I actually had to go look up that acronym. And I thought, Okay, I want to talk to this woman. So we connected and I booked an appointment for September 27 weeks out. September 27 came the time came and I jumped on the Zoom call. Minutes ticked by window didn't show up, which Oh no, something felt funny about that. Because I knew she was a woman of integrity, a word of a woman of her word just from the little bit I'd injure acted with her. So after about 10 minutes, I jumped off back to my business and I dropped a note saying, hey, Linda, obviously something came up. I hope everything's well with you. Well, on September 27, things weren't going so well for Linda, things weren't well at all. Linda, what was happening in your world on September 27. So actually backing up to September 23. I was admitted in the hospital. I died due to COVID. I crashed, and they had to revive me. So when we were scheduled to me, I was actually in a coma. You were in an induced coma? Yes. For 17 days. Now. Yeah, I had a feeling things weren't as they should be. But I had no idea. It wasn't until almost four weeks later, I got a message from you saying I'm so sorry. I missed our call. Tell me a little bit about I had no idea that they induced comas in people what what was the your experience? What was Yeah, yeah, so at the time, I was totally out of it. I was on a ventilator and had a feeding tube. And for 17 days, the ventilator was breathing for me, because I was unable to breathe for myself. COVID had pretty much suffocated me. And so I was not I was stroking my body was reacting to not being able to function normally. And so they put me in a coma, I started to have stroke symptoms, and it was just give my body time to rest. So it could get through the worst part of the attack and start going towards healing. Wow. I have no personal experience with this. I had no idea that they would put you into a coma this, I'm assuming that this is to kind of counteract the effects of the COVID, you had Delta variant, you would have the desk there, you actually had in hindsight, it thought that both you and your son had had the original variant of COVID much earlier than any of us knew COVID was in North America, right? We had the symptoms of the first variant of COVID Oh COVID and November of 19. My son is a first responder. And so at the time we were living together and he got sick. And then once he got well I got sick and it was very much the symptoms of COVID the fatigue, the aches, the the fever, like we had all the all the things of COVID but we both thought it was like a sinus infection. It was a changing them season or or something like that, that he had picked up in his job. And we got through that fine. I had the brain fog and all the other things that go with COVID but nobody knew. Yeah, like those symptoms would have meant nothing to because it wasn't until March in April, that we really as a, as a continent, started to understand as the world started understanding what this was and what the symptoms were. Exactly, exactly. And so we, we pretty much got through that part. And then I went a year and a half, kind of semi quarantining myself, like only seeing customers online, for the most part, but my boyfriend and I decided to open a co workspace. Okay. And so at the time that I got stricken, I was trying to bring up two businesses. We have an Airbnb, we're trying to bring up and then we had the CO workspace. And so we were just busy doing what we do. And thinking I was social distancing, you know, wearing the mask, whatever, wasn't vaccinated. It wasn't that I wasn't going to get vaccinated is because I have experienced with clinical trials, I was waiting for them to work. Any quirks that they saw it out before I get it. A lot of doing that. Yeah. So I was kind of prolonging it. Never, never did occur. To me, that wouldn't get it. It was just a point of when, and I thought I had time. And then I got sick. I on the 21st of September, I wouldn't get tested. We both were ill. But I started to get progressively worse. And so I went and got tested. And then on the 23rd I got the results that it was COVID Positive. And I caught my doctor and she said get to the emergency room now. And so I did exactly, she said, and within minutes of getting to the emergency room, I crashed. What, what does that mean? I died - they had to resuscitate me and keep me alive. Everything was going into failure. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't feel but I didn't. I felt tired. And I had a fever. But I didn't feel like it's time for me to die. I mean, I didn't feel like that was the end. I just felt like I was having difficulty breathing. And I was tired. And because my auto steps was probably very low. But I didn't know that. And so I remember going checking in and give him my ID. And following a young man. He said follow me to a room. That's the last I remember, for 17 days for 17 days. Yeah. When we first talked, you said that after those 17 days, when you merge from that coma, you had people, nurses, technicians coming to you and expressing to you how happy they were that you survived because in that month in Tennessee 17 1790 did not survive. 1527 were unvaccinated. And they really thought that you were going to be one of that number they did. Person of the person who were on the crash team who have saved my life came in and said Hey, my name is one on one's name was Kathy. And she's I was the one that hit all the white on like the Stay Puft. Man, that was me in the in the crash room with you. I don't remember her. I vaguely remember the doctor looking up and seeing the doctor on my head. But I don't remember anything else about that time. And so various people like Kathy were coming in and saying, Hey, I was there. We were worried about you. We thought we lost you. We're so glad you're still here. Like the respiratory therapist who sat with me two days while I was on the ventilator. He said, You know, I was here checking to make sure the ventilator was doing what it was supposed to do. He said it was working fine. But Miss Linda, you did not look well at all. And I really thought we were gonna lose you. And you also told me that most people in your age group, yeah, you were one of the only ones that I was the first one. I was the first survivor of 60 of the 60 age group. I was the first survivor of they say Well, now you have a title. Because you know, they call me the business blog. That's my title and the business world. But then they gave me a new title. The first person to survive COVID After coming off a video for my age group. Oh my god. So there's a couple things I want to ask you about that. Um, so you will like so many people like myself, I'm vaccinated, but I do have my thoughts as well as like, Oh, what do we know about this? But But I did it so. So you were as they call it? Would you say that you were vaccine hesitant? I was yeah, definitely hesitant, but NOT. NOT against it. Yeah. Nice. Like, totally again, but I was I was trying to figure out while I was trying to give them time to figure out what were the pros and cons. Yeah, you know, so that I could see where I fit in all of that. Yeah, at the same time, so I have asthma. I have high blood pressure and I have diabetes type two. So I have those illnesses and other four illnesses. They say that the that the delta variant was attacking, I had three of the four, like I didn't have COPD, that's the only one I didn't have. Wow. And so I knew that I would be getting it. It was just a matter of who you'd be getting the vaccine. Yeah, yes. Now, when we first talked, you would said that there is a vast difference, when like, can we all have a little bit of hesitancy, nobody wakes up in the morning going, I want a new medicine in my body, but whatever. We all have our the time it takes to wrap our heads around it or not. There is a huge gaping gap in your state, between when we first talked to you said between the affluent community, the numbers of vaccinations there versus the you compare that to communities of color, right, they the news report that I saw, sit in one of the affluent areas of the city, that 85% of them were vaccinated, versus a community mostly of people of color. And it had a 14% one for the nation. Right at that at that point. Yes. 14% Yeah, so a huge 70% difference. Absolutely. What's happening there. And so well, I wanted to be a part of this solution. And I held a show on Sunday, just this past, yeah, this past Sunday, to help people understand the impact of the disease. Because a lot of times, like they may be like me, you know, thinking they may be like me, and thinking that it's my freedoms, are my liberties are being exhausted, or are, something's in there that is going to help them track me or whatever, whatever the thought pattern is, for people being hesitant. I wanted to show them the impact of what the disease can do, because I didn't consider my children. When I was making my decision. Like, what is the impact of those? Have we taught the people who love us how to live without us? Because COVID is deadly. I'm a witness that it was deadly because it killed me the other day, and we're just just able to bring you back. I'm like, Absolutely. Have we taught those that love us how to live without us? Yeah. That's yeah, so we're all kind of just hearing the sound bytes of my rights, my freedoms, but we're not thinking of these wider ramifications. Like, it goes way beyond like you said, and you personally know what it is to lose a mother figure. Absolutely. I lost my mother at night. So now having had COVID yet that you're thinking of that in terms of I don't want my children my family to I wouldn't want they don't anybody I losing her so early in life. Is this this no way to put all the words together to describe what this really like? And when I thought about it, you know, and it wasn't until I had been through the coma, I woke up, and my son, my oldest son, my children are 4737 and 32. So they're grown. But when I heard my oldest son say, Mama, are you going to be alright? It wrong my heart. Because I at that point realized I almost killed his mother. How much left my child motherless, which I again, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And I think when we have grown children, we tend to think that they're self sufficient and that they're on an island and they can cope it we hope and pray. We've, you know, given them equip them with enough tools that they can do the rest of their lives by themselves. But in all actuality, our children will never be the age we are. And so they still need our wisdom. They still need our guidance, even when they're 47. You know, they still need us. Yeah. And so my negligence can or my hesitance, not negligence, my hesitance almost cost him his mother. Yeah. So there's a whole widening the thought of like, yeah, it's your rights and your freedoms, but it's like it's the ramifications of what you're taking away from your family and the impacts that you're having both personally and you know, that as an independent businesswoman yourself, what did this cost you? So it so when you think about finances right? This happened in September, and I was working on a bunch of projects and things but I hadn't been paid since August. So financially that that was that then the cost of the bill itself. And then it was at net for people, listeners who aren't American and because most OECD cook all the countries other than America have universal health care. Okay, we don't know what this is. What was the cost that what was the bill for so so the numbers are there'll be an added, the numbers are still being added. But the initial hospital bill itself was 200 over $211,000. Like that, that was just for the room and board and the hospital care, not the doctors, not the nurses, not the technicians, not the TAs just the house, right. That's not labs and X rays. That's not doctor visits, like those things will be added to that charge. And so and then I'm in physical therapy, you know, then I speech pathology, I had a bunch of other ancillary that went along with that. So and that's not included in that deal. So we're probably north of a quarter million dollars. Absolutely financial hit to you. Absolutely. Because maths and all the things that I have to have, because of COVID COVID sees your body into shock and everything like my numbers off the chart for my blood pressure. My numbers off the chart for my sugar diabetes, like the test the glue is astounding. I am having to monitor myself day and night to make sure that my blood pressure doesn't get too high that my heart rate stays at an even keel that my blood sugar's are under check. Like the impact of cold like you can hear a rumble in my in my voice, because I still have that lining of phlegm attached to my lungs. Every now and then I have to work that out. You know, your lungs, it's affected your brain. It's affected you're hurt. Yes inflamed your your entire body diabetes. You were telling me that you tried to walk up 15 stairs and oh, and I couldn't get my heart rate back down. I couldn't get my blood pressure down You were an active busy woman doing all kinds of things before salutely riding bikes like not, my favorite thing to do is to go bike ride, I live downtown, and to go bike riding on Sundays when the ones downtown. Like that's one of my favorite things to do. I can't do that right now. Like I sing in the choir, my church. I can't do that right now. Because I can't hold a note. So we're almost two full months since this like almost to the day almost two full months. Yeah, you got sick. It's gonna be a year, like the outlook is is that what they've told you? It's gonna be weird to have been through it. have told me that I'll be I'll be regaining parts of my body back as late as a year from now. Meanwhile, like there's that there's the the impact of your physical and how that affects your life. But as you said you hadn't been paid since August. Yeah. What's this doing to your your business and your ability to be supporting yourself as blessings come, right. So the day that I was admitted, the day before I was admitted in hospital, I got my EDI Al. From the Small Business Administration was just a loan. And part of its forgivable part of this is not but it's a loan to help you sustain your business through COVID. The COVID. And it came ideally right on time, ideally, ironically, exactly, exactly. But as blessings come, but because of that my business was able to continue on like, I have set my business up to Bill. Automatic automation is very important when you're a business owner. And so I, my build my business pretty much operated by itself. And that's what you do for other people. So that's the exact background and think this is why you need to do it. Yes. Because if something should happen to you, God forbid, your business can continue on without stopping everything I had an automation was running, all the ads were running, all the bills were being paid, like things was still happening for the business. So it didn't feel the hit that I was feeling. Mm hmm. So you would say to me, you want to make sure people like yourself or like into women, independent business owners, this is not something to play around with. It's not it's really not because what happens is, especially if you're self employed, right? When you're not working, you're not making money. Like, even if you have contracts or whatever, when you can't fulfill the times, right? When you can't do what you your genius, but in the world, then your business takes a hit, you take a hit, and then your income like I live off my business is how I get paid. And so being able to manage all of that and being able to my clients who I was working with, you know, I was working on business plans with people and doing different things with them and they thought I just wouldn't go so like, you know, Miss Linda gowns or for weeks, you know, cuz I follow up with my clients, how are you doing? How are things going, you know, what can I do to help you? And none of that was happening to people who missed me most are the Facebook peoples and I have like 25,000 people around the world that follow me on various social media platforms, but the Facebook people were like in my inbox saying, Hey, Miss Linda, I'm praying for you. Hey, Miss London, what's going on? Because we're every day since March 4 of 2013. I have posted something to encourage somebody every day. I make it my point. And the during this time when I was not there, people were in my inbox saying, Hey, what's going on with you hadn't heard from you in a few days? Because it was unusual. Yeah, I woke up to 275 voice messages, and countless inbox messages, and 7400 emails, from various places of people checking in on me trying to see you know, what's going on with you. You haven't been on miss you. And so you really understand your impact. Yeah, yeah. And and the impact that this is going to have on you. And if you're out of the game, and this is, this is ahead, you now pretty much sideline for two full months, as you say it's going to be over the next year. Yeah, you're going to be coming back to normal. Yeah, when it would, when I hear people say like, oh, it's only 1%. It's only 1%. Who died. First of all, that's an enormous number. I don't think we should be just like Pooh poohing that. But it's more that it's not just that, you know, living or dying. It's what it robs you of, and for the months. And absolutely, and that's the thing, they don't tell you about London, nobody's publicizing that, if you get COVID, you may need a lung replacement, or heart replacement, or kidney transplant, or psychotic, you know, psychological evaluations. And we're gonna have brain fog for months and months and months to come to work or live in the world while you're used to doing it. When I woke up, I couldn't move anything. So what my head like I couldn't speak. They were getting ready to put another feed into in me. And I didn't want that. And so I was, you know, shaking my head. No, because I couldn't say no. So I would shake my head. No. And she was like, What are you saying? No, you hear what I'm saying? Are you saying? No, you don't want it? You know, because they were getting rid of them to me? Yeah. And I was like, No, I don't want it. I couldn't tell her. I didn't want it. Yeah. And so when you are under the influence of COVID, people are making decisions for you that you can't make for yourself. And if you are talking about your freedom and your liberties, you want to be able to make the decisions that you feel are best for you. Yeah, you can't do that if you're in a coma. Now, you would you said something around, you know, the hesitancy, hesitancy is from fear and doubt. And okay, I want to wait. But what is your opinion now on something defective, you just have to do it? Sometimes you just have to do it right. And so what was brought back to my remembrance was, when I was about four, they made a mandate for MMR, the muscles, the measles, mumps and rubella. And you had to the sugar cube had just shot on my left shoulder, I still have the scar from that shot, because my mother had an eighth grade education. But she understood that if she took her children to get the vaccinations, that God would do the rest and taking care of them. And so sometimes I think we know too much. My husband has come because I knew the manager of a research department, and I would learn different things from her. Sometimes, not knowing is better than knowing if it's gonna prevent us from doing what we need to do in order to stay healthy. We don't know what's in the food when we buy food at restaurants. We don't know what's in the food when we buy food at the store. At the store, like we are all there's there are so many things that we don't really know what's in it that we ingest. And for us to do that about the vaccination. It just shows how out of sync, how powerful we think we are, but we really aren't. Yeah, like if you ever ate out, if you ever open up a bottle of soda, like if you ever open anything that you didn't plant, you know, harvest yourself. You don't know what's in it. You don't know what went on it. And so, wow, wow, it sounds good. Like we don't know what's in the vaccination. But we don't know what's another is it? I mean, yeah, it's been politicized. And that's it. That's a soundbite that's out there. But we don't know what's in it. So we're gay. You're not careful about most of the things in your life. So why be so you don't really you don't realize because you don't autopilot, right? Okay. Go to the store you buy product. So why is is this you know, oh, we don't know what's in it. Yet. There's 80% 85 86% of the affluent population of Tennessee is vaccinated. Wow. So why are they so unworried about what's in it? And they're also the ones that only 15% of the vaccinated are the ones that are dying the 85 of the ones that aren't right. So why why is it so easy for them to know that it's like this is just something we're going to have to take a risk on and just do it? Because in research and clinical research, most times they're not used as the guinea pigs. And so you know, the people of lower income of color and the research is there. So I get that. But here's the deal. You can go anywhere in your city and get a vaccination. Like you don't have to go to your neighborhood pharmacy, you can go to a pharmacy and on the floor neighborhood. So what you're going to what you're referring to is like, infamous research and experiments that have been done in the past that have victimized the Tuskegee experiments. Well, that's one and then they talk about the mercury in the shots that MMR shots that were given to community health centers. Yeah. So so there is a history there is a history and a history of vos. Yeah. Right. But you can go and get the COVID vaccination anywhere. Like you're not limited to just your neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. So go get it in an affluent area. Yep. Yeah. You know, if that's if that's your concern, it's just that just trying to demystify why people aren't getting what's going to protect them, and not just protect them. As I told you before, you know, these are people dying. This is our our knowledge base, dying our elders, and, you know, people that your dreams, people who have dreams and ambitions, they've yet to feel like their ideas are dying, like we're losing out as a community, not just as the family that's missing this person, but the community are missing the wealth of that person in knowledge. And this has been borne out historically, as we were talking earlier, like when you look at the decimation of indigenous populations in like, I think, my home province of British Columbia, the epidemics, that they were unable to protect themselves, they're they're vulnerable to decimated their populations that killed their elders that killed mothers and fathers it killed, the community was in tatters, and three, four or five generations later, 100 years later, they have not regained what they've lost. And it the disadvantage to a community of being vulnerable to an epidemic like this. Absolutely. ramifications are going to be generations out on this if people aren't protecting themselves. So you are trying to make a change. I am trying Absolutely. I am trying to use my experience with COVID to educate people on what the impact of COVID is. Because another thing I did in my in my program I had Sunday is I had an attorney to come on and talk about the directives, because most of us don't have conversations with our kids about if I'm incapacitated. If I'm incapacitated, what does that mean to you? What do you need to know, in order for you to carry on or do for you to handle my assets as I want them to be handled. And so she talked about, you know, we assume that if we die, things are just gonna go people are going to handle things that happen as they should. But there are actually laws in different states that govern what's happening next. And she was talking about like probate, he could last up a year, like your assets could be out there for a year, with, you know, nobody taking care of them. It's just so much he was saying that everyone, over 18 need to have a directive of what happens to them next. If they're incapacitated, you know, that's like a will. That's like a directive more or less. So not necessarily a wheel, but but just telling people, this is what I have. And this is what I want to happen to it. So we are much, but basically like your power of attorney, so if I get sick, who's going to handle it for me, your financial agreement, which is this person can make financial decisions for me in the event that I'm not able to do it for myself. So you're educating your community, you're also encouraging people to bite the bullet. You actually got vaccinated? Yes, on that live stream the 15 day? Yeah, so I got so I got I got vaccinated the 15. Because what happens is, when they put steroids and antibiotics to treat, I hit a bacterial pneumonia, which is a side effect of COVID. And because they had to put me on high doses of antibiotics and steroids, I wasn't able to get vaccinated until 30 days after I stopped the last treatment. And so my last treatment of antibiotics and steroids was October 14. So right over the the threshold of that one month, November 15. Green, you got vaccinated? Oh, congratulations! Well thank you. Thank you, because I, you know, I want to be the example. And because I did that a couple of people went and got their booster and one young lady went and got her vaccination her first one, and then I have a friend who she went through COVID and it didn't really mess with her physical body, but it mess with her mind. And so you don't know like I've heard people talk about the joint pain, like if they've had breaks and whatever that is making those things where it's like, you don't really know what is going to attack, but I bet 98% I mean, that was in 97, 98, 99%, you say that survive? They have the impact of COVID. Yeah, after they have had the disease because COVID hangs around, you didn't die. But you will be living with this for potentially years to come. We don't even know how long. Exactly, exactly. And so for that reason, that reason you need to think about, you know, you don't even know, like, a lot of people don't know what illnesses they have under underlying illnesses. Yeah. Because they haven't manifested themselves, right. But with COVID, you're gonna find out, let me just say, yes. It will magnify. I have had that conversation with people who are vaccine hesitant or, you know, they say, Yeah, but all the people who died had comorbidities and or underlying health issues. You don't know what you've got we none of us, particularly, you know, the further through your life you go, it hasn't manifested itself, as you say, but we don't know. So you can't be smugly to saying, well, I'll be fine. I'm healthy. I'm healthy. I eat right, I exercise, I'm not obese. You have no idea. But the thing about it is the reality of it is delta variant, the delta variant is taking out the healthy and the unhealthy. Yes. So it's not just taking out obese people. There are people who had no record of any medical illnesses that have died. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a Russian roulette. Yeah. And we would never do this with any other situation prior to COVID. I don't know that anybody would be fine. It's like, yeah, one out of 100 people are gonna die. Oh, okay. That's a risk I'm willing to take. So you can be the 100th. Yeah. So you're, you're the one, you know, you don't know if you're the one or your mom's the one, or your kids are the one - you don't know. So yeah, the whole kid thing. I worry about that as well, because we don't really have the longitudinal research and study to know like, how is this going to affect their development? If they get this? And now I get they get a milder version. But is it going to be mental, cognitive, physical, you know, I have a whole nother source of moles, like skin tags are under my arms. Because, yeah, I didn't have it before. COVID. Oh, I know, right. And so not being able to lift my arms for weeks and weeks and weeks. I knew there was something happening under there. But I didn't know what it was. And then when I was, I've been the physical therapy to help unfreeze my shoulders, and my shoulders froze while I was laying there. But it lifted my arm up, I could see that their their skin tags that I didn't have before. So do you know what it occurs to me people people are afraid of like, what are the what are the effects of the vaccine? I'd be afraid of? What are the effects of you know, like, if you do in fact, survive, all these other weird stuff is manifesting itself and you and who knows what's gonna come up next year, the year after? Exactly that? Exactly. So what are you going to do you your business until this invented your life was was working with small businesses, economically disadvantaged women owned small businesses, women over 45. And and as you say, it was all automated. Thank God for that. Because yours kept going and you help people do that. But you're you've kind of pivoted, you're pivoting a bit. Now, with this new mission. You've got what? After the live on Sunday, what do you plan going forward? That's going to help try to get more than 15%. So so for the most part needed? Yeah. So So for me, my whole thing is, I'm spiritually led. Like I help people do business plans and, plan out their grant proposal and all this planning. But for myself, I actually get downloads. And so it says, "go do this", and I go do that. Like the whole program on Sunday, I was instructed while I was laying there, unable to move, that you need to tell other people what you're going through. And so that's where that whole program came up. I do know that a book is coming out of this is one of the things that I'm doing. I haven't started on it by nose is in my future. But just educating people and talking going to different platforms with other women 45-and-over and just telling the story, so that they understand what the impact is of their hesitance. Like just educate as many people as I can on and then from a business perspective, educating as many self employed business owners who may not have already thought about if I'm incapacitated, what does that look like? And what conversations do I need to start having now? And just really sharing the experience that I've gleaned from this whole experience? Yeah. Wow. I'm so inspired with what you what you were looking to do. And the whole theme of season three is the women who have had some huge event impact their life and the new direction that it takes them in. I'm so excited and inspired with where you're going with your experience, Linda and I would like to Imagine when you said that there's a book coming out of this. Linda does not speak lightly about this. Linda is an author of a book that has been accepted into the Library of Congress back in 2013. What was the name of that book? The Well Ran Dry - Memoirs of a Motherless Child. And it talks about me losing my mother to the Hong Kong flu on Christmas Day. 1968. It's, there's definitely an ironic full circle on it Absolutely Is. I did a documentary last year in 2020 About the similarities between COVID and the Hong Kong flu I'm so glad your children did not lose their mother. Absolutely. And I'm so so honored and grateful that you were here to talk with me today about your experience and what you're doing with it. Thank you. Thanks so much. God bless. This amazing conversation is one woman's efforts to use podcast guest appearances to get her very important message out to the world. Whether it's to build her business, her audience or credibility, or even rebuild her life. 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